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S6:E11 - How Thinking Like a Futurist Can Benefit Small Towns with Rebecca Ryanutton


Rebecca sits down with futurist Rebecca Ryan for a conversation about why and how small towns need to stop planning for the past and start envisioning multiple possible futures. They discuss the PHOEBE energy assessment, the three futures framework, and why traditional stakeholder-based visioning often fails. It's one of those episodes that both challenges how you think while also encouraging you to work in your strengths, build trust over polish, and remember that the future isn't something that just happens to us—we happen to it too.


About Rebecca:

Rebecca Ryan is a noted top 50 professional futurist, economist, best-selling author and entrepreneur. She is the founder of NEXT Generation Consulting through which she partners with government leaders across the country. Looking a generation ahead, she outlines strategies in urban planning, economic development and workforce development to ensure communities are well equipped for future trends and challenges. Rebecca is a graduate of Drake University with a certificate in Strategic Foresight from University of Houston; she is the Resident Futurist at the Alliance for Innovation and on the Executive Committee of the global Association of Professional Futurists.


In this episode, we cover:

  • How Rebecca Ryan became a professional futurist and why that career path even exists

  • The PHOEBE assessment and its four energy patterns: Visionary, Collaborator, Organizer, and Driver

  • Why most strategic plans are just last year's document with updated dates

  • The three futures framework: expectable, challenging, and visionary

  • Why trust is the invisible force multiplier that makes or breaks community work

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