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S6:E13 - How to Harness Creativity to Create Value in Small Towns with Jordan DeGree
Some people are just wired to make things better–in their businesses, their communities, their small towns–even when it's hard, and nobody around them quite gets it. This episode is for those people. We get it. Today’s guest, Jordan DeGree, gets it. And he has created the Rural Ideas Network to connect you with other people who get it, too. Today’s episode is what support and connection can look like, and where you can find them. About Jordan: Jordan DeGree is an entrepreneur
May 43 min read


S6:E10 - Connecting Students and Employers with the Career Carousel
This episode is about Oakes, ND’s first-ever Career Carousel, a speed-dating-style event that connected 52 high school juniors and seniors with 14 local employers for four-minute rotational conversations. The goal was to give students a safe, constructive space to practice professional interactions, learn about local opportunities like tuition reimbursement or who’s hiring in Oakes, and help employers connect with future talent. The pilot was a hit, which we’re tickled about,
Apr 133 min read


S6:E8 - Wisdom From 30 Years of Economic Development with Bob Wurl
What actually drives economic development in small towns? In this episode, Bob Wurl shares how community banking, long-term thinking, and a willingness to act—not just plan—have shaped his own small town’s success. It’s a practical look at what happens when people stop waiting for change and start building it themselves About Bob: Bob Wurl grew up in Hankinson, ND. He holds a B.S.B.A. degree with a major in Accounting from University of North Dakota and completed the Graduate
Mar 233 min read


S6:E7- Vacant Properties in Small Towns with Liz Kozub
Vacant and deteriorating properties are a challenge facing communities across the country—but small towns are not powerless to address them. In this episode, Liz from the Center for Community Progress shares practical strategies communities can use to inventory vacant buildings, navigate ownership challenges, and turn neglected properties into opportunities for revitalization. The conversation explores how data, partnerships, and creative thinking can help small towns reclaim
Mar 164 min read


S6:E6 - Foodies, Families and Unexpected Paths with Shawn and Aiden Ulmer
This episode features a local Oakes father/son duo and we’re so excited to introduce them to you! Shawn and Aiden Ulmer of the Angry Beaver Lodge share the story of a third-generation restaurant business and the unexpected path that brought Aiden back to Oaks. They discuss generational transitions, evolving bar culture, and the role local businesses play in creating community. This is a conversation about what draws people back to small towns and the active role communities c
Mar 104 min read


S6:E3 - A 25-Year-Old Buys a Quilt Shop with TJ Roney
What happens when a 25-year-old buys a quilt shop in a town of 1,800 people? (Spoiler: awesome stuff.) In this episode, our very own TJ Roney shares how entrepreneurship, creativity, social media, and community support collided to create unexpected momentum. It’s a powerful reminder that rural opportunity doesn’t always look the way we expect it to, and that young people are, in fact, interested in things that aren’t on their phones. About TJ: Hey there, my name is TJ, and I’
Feb 173 min read


S6:E1 - Microbusiness Development in Small Towns with Marci Goodwin, Katie Kelly, and Leigh Ann Brown
Welcome to the first episode of season SIX of the Growing Small Towns podcast! We’re starting off big by having our first-ever TRIO on the pod, and we’re so excited to share this episode with you. Most small towns aren’t built on startups or corporations; they’re built on small (and smaller!) businesses, and today’s episode is all about those “smaller” ones: microbusinesses. This episode explores how supporting solopreneurs, side hustles, and local makers creates stronger eco
Feb 23 min read


S5:E29- How Chambers Can Change with the Times with Kausha Magill
We’re back with one of our most very favorite people and Oakes local, Kausha Magill, to talk Chambers of Commerce. This episode explores how Chambers of Commerce can stay relevant by embracing collaboration, experimentation, and a regional mindset. It’s a practical, uplifting look at what happens when chambers evolve with the times instead of sticking to the “Well, this is how we’ve always done it.” About Kausha: Kausha lives on her family's farm and ranch about 15 miles nort
Dec 1, 20254 min read


S5:27 - Cattle, Creativity, and Community with Tesa Klein
This episode dives into the amazing creative journey of Tesa Klein, the cowgirl-turned-entrepreneur behind Wildflowers, who rebuilt her business after years in the rodeo world and rediscovered her spark. She’s deeply rooted in rural (she lives in a NoDak town of 50!) but has had her share of big-time viral moments. It’s an inspiring look at trusting yourself even when your dreams don’t seem to match your zip code, and we love hearing her take on balance and dreaming big from
Nov 17, 20253 min read


S5:25 - Rural Housing Data with Ben Winchester
One of our favorite guests is back! Ben Winchester is a rural researcher who digs into the intersection of housing, demographics, and community vitality. In this episode, we’re going over some of his latest research and the trends he’s seeing, and why now is the time to make plans for growing our small towns. There are tons of opportunities, but we have to go out and grab them! Our favorite thing about Ben is that he provides context and action around data (even tough data!)
Nov 3, 20253 min read


S5:24 - Learning As We Go in Economic Development with Ashley Geigle
This week, we’re chatting with an amazing human about amazing stuff. Okay, fine, every week we talk with amazing humans about amazing stuff, but this episode is a great one. Rebecca visits with Ashley Geigle, Economic Development Director for Murdo, South Dakota, about how she built a brand-new role from scratch. (Like, from scratch, like growing and milling the wheat for the flour level of scratch, not box mix scratch.) Ashley talks about learning through challenges, buildin
Oct 27, 20254 min read


S5:23 - Reimagining Economic Development with Justin Neppl
In this episode, Rebecca talks with longtime friend and former economic developer Justin Neppl about what it really means to reimagine economic development for small towns. For years, economic development has focused on the same things, but the future looks different. This episode is about collaboration, trust, and people-centered leadership and how they can come together to update traditional models to make futures brighter for our small towns. About Justin: Justin Neppl is
Oct 20, 20253 min read


S5:E22 - Love Notes to the Lonely, Uncertain, or Scared with Rebecca Undem
Sometimes things are rough, whether it’s for a little bit, a season, or longer. This episode is straight from our founder and leader, and she’s sharing reflections and encouragement for anyone who’s felt exhausted, uncertain, or overwhelmed by the weight of showing up for their community or business. It’s lovely work, but it can also feel heavy and lonely, so if you’ve ever felt that way, this episode is for you. In this episode, you'll hear: That your energy is a limited res
Oct 13, 20252 min read


S5:E20 - Would College Kids Return to Our Towns? with Jaci Praska
One of the most common concerns we hear from small-town leaders and residents is the idea of the “brain drain,” or the fear that young...
Sep 29, 20253 min read


S5:E19 - Small Town Talent Attraction with Alissa Henriksen
We’ve heard it, and you probably have too: “People don’t want to move to rural communities.” Or, “Talented people don’t want to live in...
Sep 22, 20254 min read


S5:E18 - Being a Developer with a Heart with Dylan Cinti
Housing development is a key focus for many small towns, and for good reason: we need places for people to live! But, sometimes...
Sep 15, 20253 min read


S5:E17 - Engaging Kids to Contribute with Craig Cegielski and Tyson Rohrscheib
We are kicking off the second part of Season 5 with a bang and sharing one of the coolest programs we’ve had the pleasure of learning...
Sep 8, 20255 min read


S5:E16 - What Makes Kids Love Their Small Towns with Carter Undem
This is a first on the podcast and a great ending to the first part of Season 5 (we’ll be back in September with more episodes!) One of...
Jun 2, 20252 min read


S5:E15 - Getting and Keeping Rural Lawyers with Hannah Haksgaard
This episode is about the rural lawyer shortage, why it’s happening, why it matters, and what we can do about it. This is a new-to-us...
May 26, 20252 min read


S5:E12 - Making Room for New People with Meredith McMurray
Meredith is easily one of the most interesting and unusual people we’ve ever had on the podcast, and her story is a testament to just how...
Apr 28, 20254 min read
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